You’ve heard the phrase: “If you can’t explain it to a 5-year-old, you don’t understand it.” But what if that idea is not only false but harmful? In this video, we dismantle one of the most repeated myths in science communication, explore why some truths resist simplification, and reveal what real understanding actually looks like. If you care about learning deeply, or teaching well, this is a must-watch.
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Links Mentioned:
• Algebraic Topology (book): https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521795400
• Topology and Geometry (book): https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387979263
• Language isn’t just “low resolution communication” (Substack): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/language-isnt-just-low-resolution
• Non-analytic smooth function: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-analytic_smooth_function
• Emily Riehl on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTwvecBthpQ
• Neil deGrasse Tyson on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWWlJFwTqs
• Curt debunking the “all possible paths” myth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcY3ZtgYis0
• What does it mean to explore the “ill-defined”? (Substack): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/what-does-it-mean-to-explore-the
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19:04
MIT Physicist: These Black Holes Are Older Than the Universe
In this episode of Theories of Everything, MIT physicist and historian David Kaiser explores primordial black holes which are hypothetical entities that may have formed before stars or atoms. David discusses their potential role in explaining dark matter, their connections to cosmic inflation, and how they might reshape our understanding of the early universe. This conversation connects the realms of quantum theory, cosmology, and the history of physics.
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Links Mentioned:
• David Kaiser's published papers: https://arxiv.org/a/kaiser_d_1.html
• Bell, J. S. “On the Einstein‐Podolsky‐Rosen paradox” (1964): https://cds.cern.ch/record/111654/files/vol1p195-200_001.pdf
• “Ultra-High-Energy Neutrinos from Primordial Black Holes” (2025): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2503.19227
• “Cosmic Bell Test Using Random Measurement Settings from High-Redshift Quasars” (2018): https://arxiv.org/pdf/1808.05966
• “Close Encounters of the Primordial Kind” (2023): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2312.17217
• “Primordial Black Holes from Multifield Inflation with Non-minimal Couplings” (2022): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.04471
• “Testing Bell’s Inequality with Cosmic Photons” (2013): https://arxiv.org/pdf/1310.3288
• “Planck Constraints & Gravitational-Wave Forecasts for PBH Dark Matter Seeded by Multifield Inflation” (2023): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.02168
• “Light Scalar Fields Foster Production of Primordial Black Holes” (2025): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.13251
• “Debye Screening of Non-Abelian Plasmas in Curved Spacetimes” (2023): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2309.15385
• “Primordial Black Holes with QCD Color Charge” (2023): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.16877
• A Brief History of Time – Stephen Hawking: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0553380168
• In Search of Schrödinger’s Cat – John Gribbin: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0553342533
• How the Hippies Saved Physics – David Kaiser: https://www.amazon.com/dp/039334231X
• Drawing Theories Apart – David Kaiser: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002Y5W2X2
Timestamps:
00:00 – What Are Primordial Black Holes?
01:41 – Could They Be Dark Matter?
05:21 – Kaiser’s Academic Journey
10:56 – Studying Physics and Its History
11:57 – Cosmic Inflation Basics
15:31 – Direct Collapse vs. Stellar Collapse
25:14 – Bell’s Theorem Explained
38:32 – Quasars and the Cosmic Bell Test
43:04 – High-Precision Astronomy
47:38 – Learning Curves & Interdisciplinary Research
48:17 – Scalar Fields and Inflation Models
55:05 – Black Hole Formation from Inflation
58:41 – Black Hole Mass as a Cosmic Clock
1:02:50 – Quark-Gluon Plasma & Color Charge
1:08:46 – Critical Collapse and Mass Spread
1:11:34 – Charged Primordial Black Holes
1:13:54 – Big Bang Nucleosynthesis Implications
1:20:14 – Detecting Black Holes Locally
1:23:51 – Tracking Planetary Wobbles
1:26:04 – Hawking Radiation & Positron Signatures
1:30:06 – Why Track Mars, Not Earth?
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1:56:14
Demystifying Gödel's Theorem: What It Actually Says
Gödel’s incompleteness theorem is one of the most misunderstood ideas in science and philosophy. This video cuts through the hype, correcting major misconceptions from pop-science icons and revealing what Gödel actually proved and what he didn’t. If you think his theorem limits human knowledge, think again. The people referenced are Neil deGrasse Tyson, Veritasium, Michio Kaku, and Deepak Chopra.
Correction: Veritasium says "everything" not "anything." My foolish verbal flub is corrected in the captions, and the argumentation remains the same.
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Links Mentioned:
• Scott Aaronson | How Much Math Is Knowable?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VplMHWSZf5c
• The Consistency of the Axiom of Choice and of the Generalized Continuum-Hypothesis (paper): https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.24.12.556
• The Gettier Problem: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/knowledge-analysis/#GettProb
• Jennifer Nagel on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWZVMZ9Tm7Q
• Gödel’s First Incompleteness Theorem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Formally_Undecidable_Propositions_of_Principia_Mathematica_and_Related_Systems
• Roger Penrose on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGm505TFMbU
• Curt talks with Penrose for IAI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQM0OtxvZ-Y
• Bertrand Russell’s Comments: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Russell,_Whitehead_-_Principia_Mathematica,_vol._I,_1910.djvu/84
• Gregory Chaitin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMPnrNL3zsE
• Chaitin on the ‘Rise and Fall of Academia’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoEuav8G6sY
• Curt and Neil Tyson Debate Physics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye9OkJih3-U
• Gödel’s Completeness Theorem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_completeness_theorem
• Latham Boyle on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyLeeEFKk04
• Gabriele Carcassi on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIQ7CaQX8EI
• Gabriele Carcassi’s YouTube Channel (Live): https://www.youtube.com/@AssumptionsofPhysicsResearch
• Robinson Arithmetic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_arithmetic
• Algorithmic Information Theory (book): https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521616042
• The Paris-Harrington Theorem: https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Paris-HarringtonTheorem.html
• Curt’s Substack: The Mathematics of Self: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/the-mathematics-of-self-why-you-can
• The Church-Turing Thesis: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/church-turing/
• Curt’s Substack: The Most Profound Theorem in Logic You Haven't Heard Of: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/infinity-its-many-models-and-lowenheim
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25:00
The Physicist Who Proved Entropy = Gravity
What if gravity is not fundamental but emerges from quantum entanglement? In this episode, physicist Ted Jacobson reveals how Einstein’s equations can be derived from thermodynamic principles of the quantum vacuum, reshaping our understanding of space, time, and gravity itself.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:11 The Journey into Physics
04:26 Spirituality and Physics
06:29 Connecting Gravity and Thermodynamics
09:22 The Concept of Rindler Horizons
13:12 The Nature of Quantum Vacuum
20:53 The Duality of Quantum Fields
32:59 Understanding the Equation of State
35:05 Exploring Local Rindler Horizons
47:15 Holographic Duality and Space-Time Emergence
58:19 The Metric and Quantum Fields
59:58 Extensions and Comparisons in Gravity
1:26:26 The Nature of Black Hole Physics
1:31:04 Comparing Theories
Links Mentioned::
• Ted’s published papers: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=QyHAXo8AAAAJ&hl=en
• Claudia de Rham on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve_Mpd6dGv8
• Neil Turok on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZCa1pVE20
• Bisognano–Wichmann theorem: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Bisognano-Wichmann+theorem
• Scott Aaronson and Jacob Barandes on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbC3XZr9-c
• Stephen Wolfram on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRlQQw0d-4
• Ruth Kastner on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BsHh3_vCMQ
• Jacob Barandes on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaS1usLeXQM
• Leonard Susskind on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_Hlm6aCok
• Ted’s talk on black holes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYt2Rm_dXf4
• Ted Jacobson: Diffeomorphism invariance and the black hole information paradox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6kdHge-NNY
• Bose–Einstein condensate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose–Einstein_condensate
• Holographic Thought Experiments (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/0808.2845
• Peter Woit and Joseph Conlon on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAaXk_WoQqQ
• Chiara Marletto on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uey_mUy1vN0
• Entanglement Equilibrium and the Einstein Equation (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/1505.04753
• Ivette Fuentes on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUj2TcZSlZc
• Unitarity and Holography in Gravitational Physics (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/0808.2842
• The dominant model of the universe is cracking (Economist article): https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/06/19/the-dominant-model-of-the-universe-is-creaking
• Suvrat Raju’s published papers: https://www.suvratraju.net/publications
• Mark Van Raamsdonk’s published papers: https://scholar.google.ca/citations?user=k8LsA4YAAAAJ&hl=en
• Ryu–Takayanagi conjecture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryu–Takayanagi_conjecture
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1:52:46
When Physics Gets Rid of Time and Quantum Theory | Julian Barbour
What if quantum mechanics is not fundamental? What if time itself is an illusion? In this new episode, physicist Julian Barbour returns to share his most radical ideas yet. He proposes that the universe is built purely from ratios, that time is not fundamental, and that quantum mechanics might be replaced entirely without the need for wave functions or Planck’s constant. This may be the simplest vision of reality ever proposed.
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Videos Mentioned:
Julian’s previous appearance on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bprxrGaf0Os
Neil Turok on TOE (Big Bang): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUp9x44N3uE
Neil Turok on TOE (Black Holes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZCa1pVE20
Debunking “All Possible Paths”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcY3ZtgYis0
John Vervaeke on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVj1KYGyesI
Jacob Barandes & Scott Aaronson on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbC3XZr9-c
The Dark History of Anti-Gravity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBA3RUxkZdc
Peter Woit on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTSeqsCgxj8
Books Mentioned:
The Monadology – G.W. Leibniz: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1546527664
The Janus Point – Julian Barbour: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0465095461
Reflections on the Motive Power of Heat – Carnot: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1514873974
Lucretius: On the Nature of Things: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0393341364
Heisenberg and the Interpretation of QM: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1107403510
Quantum Mechanics for Cosmologists: https://books.google.ca/books?id=qou0iiLPjyoC&pg=PA99
Faraday, Maxwell, and the EM Field: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1616149426
The Feeling of Life Itself – Christof Koch: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08BTCX4BM
Articles Mentioned:
Time’s Arrow and Simultaneity (Barbour): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2211.14179
On the Moving Force of Heat (Clausius): https://sites.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/2559_Therm_Stat_Mech/docs/Clausius%20Moving%20Force%20heat%201851.pdf
On the Motions and Collisions of Elastic Spheres (Maxwell): http://www.alternativaverde.it/stel/documenti/Maxwell/1860/Maxwell%20%281860%29%20-%20Illustrations%20of%20the%20dynamical%20theory%20of%20gases.pdf
Maxwell–Boltzmann distribution (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell–Boltzmann_distribution
Identification of a Gravitational Arrow of Time: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1409.0917
The Nature of Time: https://arxiv.org/pdf/0903.3489
The Solution to the Problem of Time in Shape Dynamics: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1302.6264
CPT-Symmetric Universe: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.08928
Mach’s Principle and Dynamical Theories (JSTOR): https://www.jstor.org/stable/2397395
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:35 Consciousness and the Nature of Reality
3:23 The Nature of Time and Change
7:01 The Role of Variety in Existence
9:23 Understanding Entropy and Temperature
36:10 Revisiting the Second Law of Thermodynamics
41:33 The Illusion of Entropy in the Universe
46:11 Rethinking the Past Hypothesis
55:03 Complexity, Order, and Newton's Influence
1:02:33 Evidence Beyond Quantum Mechanics
1:16:04 Age and Structure of the Universe
1:18:53 Open Universe and Ratios
1:20:15 Fundamental Particles and Ratios
1:24:20 Emergence of Structure in Age
1:27:11 Shapes and Their Explanations
1:32:54 Life and Variety in the Universe
1:44:27 Consciousness and Perception of Structure
1:57:22 Geometry, Experience, and Forces
2:09:27 The Role of Consciousness in Shape Dynamics
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